IE 7 is a rip off of firefox (Microsoft Corp Sucks)

by Jhon, Saturday, October 28, 2006, 02:24 (4137 days ago)

IE 7 is such a rip off of Firefox. cant microsoft make up its own ideas?

IE 7 is a rip off of firefox

by Michael Cook @, Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 14:49 (4133 days ago) @ Jhon

» IE 7 is such a rip off of Firefox. cant microsoft make up its own ideas?


Microsoft has a long history of ripping off others' ideas and making money off them. They must be truly applauding the open source communities advances; how else are they going to come up with new innovative ideas?? Microsoft has reportedly written Vista from the ground up instead of just writing new code on top of old crap that is flawed, but the open source community and others are going to need to step up further to level the playing field. I would like to see Apple release a version of it's current OS for PC's.

IE 7 is a rip off of firefox

by N/A, Tuesday, January 02, 2007, 05:44 (4070 days ago) @ Michael Cook

» » IE 7 is such a rip off of Firefox. cant microsoft make up its own ideas?
»
»
» Microsoft has a long history of ripping off others' ideas and making money
» off them. They must be truly applauding the open source communities
» advances; how else are they going to come up with new innovative ideas??
» Microsoft has reportedly written Vista from the ground up instead of just
» writing new code on top of old crap that is flawed, but the open source
» community and others are going to need to step up further to level the
» playing field. I would like to see Apple release a version of it's
» current OS for PC's.


Ummm. I read somewhere of the net and also DO BELIEVE ALSO that vista is just win XP which is 2k, which is NT 4.0 which is, well you get the idea, with just Bells and whistles added on top. Remember that many XP programs CAN work on 2k and NT, and Vista apps. can work on XP, 2k and NT, it is just that MS can and does put SPECIAL code to block installation or to make it purposely unstable, most tho is the MS installer won't install it. :)

IE 7 is a rip off of firefox

by PowerLich @, Tuesday, June 12, 2007, 05:53 (3909 days ago) @ N/A

» » » IE 7 is such a rip off of Firefox. cant microsoft make up its own
» ideas?
» »
» »
» » Microsoft has a long history of ripping off others' ideas and making
» money
» » off them. They must be truly applauding the open source communities
» » advances; how else are they going to come up with new innovative ideas??
»
» » Microsoft has reportedly written Vista from the ground up instead of
» just
» » writing new code on top of old crap that is flawed, but the open source
» » community and others are going to need to step up further to level the
» » playing field. I would like to see Apple release a version of it's
» » current OS for PC's.
»
»
» Ummm. I read somewhere of the net and also DO BELIEVE ALSO that vista is
» just win XP which is 2k, which is NT 4.0 which is, well you get the idea,
» with just Bells and whistles added on top. Remember that many XP programs
» CAN work on 2k and NT, and Vista apps. can work on XP, 2k and NT, it is
» just that MS can and does put SPECIAL code to block installation or to
» make it purposely unstable, most tho is the MS installer won't install it.
» :)

In fact, Windows Vista is only a desktop theme for XP plus homongous bloatware (of course, they can't without this)

IE 7 is a rip off of firefox

by Joe @, Thursday, June 21, 2007, 23:24 (3900 days ago) @ Michael Cook

I just wanted to point out to you that Microsoft did not write Vista from the ground up. They built and modeled it after Apple's OSX. And knowing how MS design software I'm sure MS Vista is just as horribly flawed as Windows XP. I'm sure MS still allows level 1 or 3 access to your system folder so they can integrate their applications into the system folder so it is really diificult to remove them. Allowing apps to install files in your system folder is a huge security flaw. One that has been taken advantage of time after time. And people don't know any better, they just keep going out and spending money on virus protection, and when their OS does download a virus they spend even more money to have it removed and their hard drive reformatted.

IE 7 is a rip off of firefox

by Linnski @, Saturday, July 07, 2007, 22:50 (3884 days ago) @ Michael Cook

» » IE 7 is such a rip off of Firefox. cant microsoft make up its own ideas?
»
»
» Microsoft has a long history of ripping off others' ideas and making money
» off them. They must be truly applauding the open source communities
» advances; how else are they going to come up with new innovative ideas??
» Microsoft has reportedly written Vista from the ground up instead of just
» writing new code on top of old crap that is flawed, but the open source
» community and others are going to need to step up further to level the
» playing field. I would like to see Apple release a version of it's
» current OS for PC's.

What an awesome idea! A windows system made my apple! Originally Windows was invented by somebody else, was it xerox? and then they tried to sell it to Microsoft, and Microsoft thought windows was a dumb idea, and mac bought it instead, and then windows ripped it off from Mac. It all makes sence.

IE 7 is a rip off of firefox

by MacsRule, Monday, November 20, 2006, 04:55 (4114 days ago) @ Jhon

» IE 7 is such a rip off of Firefox. cant microsoft make up its own ideas?

Come on, do you really think Microsoft is smart enough to make their own software?

IE 7 is a rip off of firefox

by Karahna, Friday, November 24, 2006, 09:15 (4109 days ago) @ Jhon

HEll ya I belive it!

IE 7 is a rip off of firefox

by Amazed, Friday, December 22, 2006, 04:01 (4082 days ago) @ Jhon

» IE 7 is such a rip off of Firefox. cant microsoft make up its own ideas?

And Firefox is a ripoff of Opera, which is a ripoff of Interworks. So what's your problem again?

IE 7 is a rip off of firefox

by techno|ust, Monday, June 11, 2007, 13:27 (3910 days ago) @ Amazed

» » IE 7 is such a rip off of Firefox. cant microsoft make up its own ideas?
»
» And Firefox is a ripoff of Opera, which is a ripoff of Interworks. So
» what's your problem again?

Firefox and Opera are two different systems coded by two different companies/individuals.

IE 7 is a rip off of firefox

by Mike @, Sunday, July 08, 2007, 20:44 (3883 days ago) @ techno|ust

» Firefox and Opera are two different systems coded by two different
» companies/individuals.

Nope, that's not true! In fact the thing we're all happy about called tabbed browsing has indeed been invented by opera (who actually have a patent on this).
But..the guy who programmed this tabbed browsing moved to the mozilla developers taking the patent with him. Being friendly he allowed opera to keep using this Feature so actually Firefox AND Opera are using tabbed browsing without problems.

IE 7 is a rip off of firefox

by Microsoft equals Monopoly, Saturday, January 06, 2007, 16:17 (4066 days ago) @ Jhon

» IE 7 is such a rip off of Firefox. cant microsoft make up its own ideas?

Microsoft had to make a new browser because more people started to use firefox, Ie7 is just a rip off of firefox I agree. You should check out the Ie7 website. Microsoft said, "We heard you, you wanted it easier and more secure".

In case Microsoft never noticed, the general public never contact microsoft to say we need it this way.

Have you ever found a microsoft product that is all Microsoft ideas?

The only reason that they are so popular with the public is because they got into the computer industery first. Its like working with a kid who finishes all the maths answers first buy gets well over 90% wrong.

I bet when they make Ie8 it will have themes just like firefox!

Long live Firefox!

IE 7 is a rip off of firefox

by TRUTH, Wednesday, January 31, 2007, 13:09 (4041 days ago) @ Jhon

» IE 7 is such a rip off of Firefox. cant microsoft make up its own ideas?

No they built the whole company on STEALING from APPLE.

IE 7 is a rip off of firefox

by Blapshula @, Saturday, February 10, 2007, 01:13 (4032 days ago) @ TRUTH

» » IE 7 is such a rip off of Firefox. cant microsoft make up its own ideas?
»
» No they built the whole company on STEALING from APPLE.

No kidding. My first job out of school, (back in '96) required DOS knowledge, I fibbed in the interview, as I hadn't touched a computer since grade 11, where we learned on Macintosh, (BASIC) - very similar I soon discovered, (although I could do more with BASIC).

I made the mistake of allowing XP to update a month or so ago and wound up with IE7 - Firefox has become the only browser I use, (although I still like Opera, but it doesn't 'work' on a lot of sites).

Too bad Netscape blew it - 4.7* used to be the best browser, great email software, and from 6.0 on it made a lot of fans of Mozilla.

The big problem is that 99% of computer users buy them at someplace like 'best buy' or 'future shop', with pre-installed software and just go from there - Windows update won't allow non IE browsers to access the site for the many, much needed security patches, ergo, IE will always be the number one browser used.

To address the initial posting, I must contend that IE 7 isn't quite quite a complete ripoff of Firefox - Firefox works far better.

Take care

IE 7 is a rip off of firefox

by T, Sunday, February 25, 2007, 02:30 (4017 days ago) @ Blapshula

» » » IE 7 is such a rip off of Firefox. cant microsoft make up its own
» ideas?
» »
» » No they built the whole company on STEALING from APPLE.
»
» No kidding. My first job out of school, (back in '96) required DOS
» knowledge, I fibbed in the interview, as I hadn't touched a computer since
» grade 11, where we learned on Macintosh, (BASIC) - very similar I soon
» discovered, (although I could do more with BASIC).
»
» I made the mistake of allowing XP to update a month or so ago and wound up
» with IE7 - Firefox has become the only browser I use, (although I still
» like Opera, but it doesn't 'work' on a lot of sites).
»
» Too bad Netscape blew it - 4.7* used to be the best browser, great email
» software, and from 6.0 on it made a lot of fans of Mozilla.
»
» The big problem is that 99% of computer users buy them at someplace like
» 'best buy' or 'future shop', with pre-installed software and just go from
» there - Windows update won't allow non IE browsers to access the site for
» the many, much needed security patches, ergo, IE will always be the number
» one browser used.
»
» To address the initial posting, I must contend that IE 7 isn't
» quite
quite a complete ripoff of Firefox - Firefox works far better.
»
» Take care

Well, firefox doesn't nessicarly work better. The memory leaks are a real bitch, and it doesn't have patches. It just re-installs ff TOTTALY to a new version, and breaks all of your goddamn addons. Firefox doesn't keep you safer, nesicarlly, it just has different problems. A lot of people use it because they hate IE, but would any of us *really* have survived over the years withougt microsoft? I'm not going to be a supporter, hell no. Buuut I'm not going to say convert to Linux just yet..

IE 7 is a rip off of firefox

by bugaboo, Sunday, February 25, 2007, 19:08 (4016 days ago) @ T

IE7 is just more mal-ware from the thieves of redmond. IE7 is far less stable than Firefox. I've found on some of my customers computers that have downloaded IE7 that url shortcuts made with IE6 or Firefox, in many cases simply will not open in IE7. You can copy and paste the url from the shortcut into IE7's address bar and it works fine, but not from using the shortcut - more bizzare crud from m$. Also, sometimes when you have Firefox set as your default browser, IE7 decides to become your default browser on it's own, or even if it is not set as the default browser, it will open anyway instead of Firefox. More interfering controlling shit that doesn't work from the folks that know how to interfere and control, but don't know how to make something that works right.

IE 7 is a rip off of firefox

by Baka_toroi ⌂ @, Argentina, Tuesday, February 27, 2007, 01:31 (4015 days ago) @ T

» The memory leaks are a real bitch
Yes they are
» and it doesn't have patches. It just re-installs ff TOTTALY to a new version, and breaks all of your goddamn addons.
Firefox only breaks add-ons if there's a major version change. It does have patches: yesterday I've updated from version 2.0.0.1 to 2.0.0.2 (stupid version numbering scheme) and the update only took 800K, compared to ~ 6MB of a fresh install.

IE 7 is a rip off of firefox

by MattSchneider @, Friday, March 23, 2007, 21:45 (3990 days ago) @ Baka_toroi

So Windows is a rip off of Mac right, you think Apple invented the GUI... no it was Xerox. However, Linux IS a rip off of Unix, gees it even has the name in it, the whole point was to make an open source version of Unix so you didn't have to pay AT&T (a great idea mind you, but it does have it's own issue, go look at the RedHat patch frequency), but no one bemoans about Linux being a copy. Star Office is a copy of MS Office (which is a copy of Lotus, which is a copy... etc) but no one is out there calling the Star Office developers names about stealing ideas, in fact they are praised for attempting to usurp Microsoft's dominance in the office space (heh, Office Space). Apple's IPhone is clearly an attempt to improve upon the Windows Mobile devices as much as the Zune is the same to the IPod. Likewise AppleTV, you think that isn't trying to compete in the Windows Media Center space... which MS made once they heard about TiVo, which TiVo simply removed the hassle of switching tapes and manually programming your VHS VCR, which... was stolen from Sony BetaMax.
I have experience in computers across the board, every one of them has issues (I want to shoot IBM today for the fact they can't explain some simple I/O architecture in AIX) but Microsoft does has some original ideas every now and then, although it is seldom. SQL was bought from Sybase (and called SQL, which in itself if egotistical, but still funny), MOM from NetIQ, Office is a rip-off of Lotus, hell Windows defrag is still a stripped down version of DiskKeeper MS licenses. If you know your history then you also know IBM contracted MS to build OS/2, even while MS was building NT, you also know that MS bought a Unix license from AT&T, worked with some contractors and built Xenix, a Unix OS that was then sold off and now called SCO (high SCO fanboys, you have an MS OS :). One of the original creators of Java was hired by MS to help write C#.Net, no qualms there about what they were trying to replicate.
If you study MS you'll learn more business subterfuge and polictics lessons than anything else, but vauluable none the less.
Leave technology for a second, the toaster on your counter, do you think that's from the company that invented toasters? Hell no, even something that simple has been copied and improved upon over the years... people, be THANKFUL that companies copy other's ideas and improve upon them... otherwise we'd still be driving backwards up hills so the engine could get gas... and be thankful that companies wrap up other products into theirs like IE in Windows, otherwise that car wouldn't have a heater, A/C or sound system, they'd all be add-ons.
Piss and complain about Windows all day long if you care, but at least have some sense to learn history and make your arguments inteligent. Back to the point, IE7.... Microsoft readily admits that it stopped all IE development once the competition died down (i.e. the dominance of Netscape). Thankfully for FireFox, there is competition again. But keep in mind, Netscape was a product that cost money (I know, YOU probably didn't pay for it, but you were then technically using it illegally) and Microsoft made it free; to win the war, well probably, but none the less free... be thankful for that too. Yea sure, if MS didn't someone else would have eventually, but we credit Edison for the lightbulb, so put aside your arrogant, dumbass pride as thank MS for making web browsing free already.

Oh, and if you're still pissed at me... how exactly did you download FireFox??? Yea, if you're on Windows you used IE, thanks to MS for making a web browser built in so that if I want another I don't have to go buy one from a store, hrmm... and for the registry key that allows me to set a default browser.

IE 7 is a rip off of firefox

by Baka_toroi ⌂ @, Argentina, Friday, March 23, 2007, 23:26 (3990 days ago) @ MattSchneider

I won't praise MS ever. Period. If only, I can appreciate the fact that Bill Gates (and his gang of rouges) could see beyond corporate greed (for a little while) and create a suite that contains most that people needed at that moment. I'm talking 'bout Office. Now, onto the quotes.

» you think Apple invented the GUI...
Who the hell said that? Apple created the first (somewhat) useful GUI.

» but no one bemoans about Linux being a copy.
That's because you can get Linux for free. MS is charging you for Windoze, whether you want it or not (Try to get a laptop with no OS, apart from Apple's)

» but no one is out there calling the Star Office developers names about stealing ideas, in fact they are praised for attempting to usurp Microsoft's dominance in the office space
Like I said, they are providing the product for free, so more people can get a legal system, with legal tools to be used without the need to get into a mortgage (OK, 3rd worldish argument. Just remember I didn't want to be born here. Maybe in my next life I'll be a Jap)

» which... was stolen from Sony BetaMax.
What has been stolen from Sony? There were 2 standars at that time: VHS and Betamax. Porn industry chose VHS, Betamax lost.

» but Microsoft does has some original ideas every now and then, although it is seldom.
LOL, 100% agree

» One of the original creators of Java was hired by MS to help write C#.Net, no qualms there about what they were trying to replicate.
There's a saying down here: "Por plata baila el mono", A monkey will dance if you give him some money. So it all comes down to the filthy bucks, or any currency, for that matter.

» do you think that's from the company that invented toasters? Hell no, even
something that simple has been copied and improved upon over the years...
Yeah, but! 1. Either the improved toaster company paid the creator of the original toaster some royalty, or...
2. The patent has already expired.
So I don't think your comparison applies here.

» Netscape was a product that cost money (I know, YOU probably didn't
pay for it, but you were then technically using it illegally)
I believe it was free for the end user (at least, version 4). But I really can't remember now...

» Microsoft made it free; to win the war, well probably, but none the less
free... be thankful for that too. Yea sure, if MS didn't someone else
would have eventually, but we credit Edison for the lightbulb, so put
aside your arrogant, dumbass pride as thank MS for making web browsing
free already.
We credit Edison for the lightbulb, because he INVENTED and created it. MS, as you said, just "improved" the concept of "browser." So, all in all, MS didn't invent anything.

» thanks to MS for making a web browser built in so that if I want another I don't have to go buy one from a store, hrmm... and for the registry key that allows me to set a default browser.
LOL times 3215. This one is nonsense. To thank MS for that registry key?? WTF! Besides, if Windows hadn't included a browser, surely you'd have *free* Firefox CDs all over the world, just like Ubuntu.

IE 7 is a rip off of firefox

by Ms. Gates, Sunday, April 01, 2007, 02:05 (3982 days ago) @ MattSchneider

» So Windows is a rip off of Mac right, you think Apple invented the GUI...

At least you got that right. XeroxPARC invented the first GUI.

» I want to shoot IBM today for the fact they can't explain some
» simple I/O architecture in AIX

I have a feeling you really don't remember all the things people want to shoot IBM for. EBCDIC, anyone?


» If you know your history then you also know IBM contracted MS to build OS/
» 2, even while MS was building NT

If you know your history, you also know that OS/2 was widely regarded as better that Windows by far. And that MS conspired to kill it. cf. Groklaw.


» Netscape was a product that cost money (I know, YOU probably didn't
» pay for it, but you were then technically using it illegally) and

Netscape, at least for much of its history, was a free product.


» Yea, if you're on Windows you used IE, thanks to MS for making
» a web browser built in so that if I want another I don't have to go buy
» one from a store, hrmm...

If you do know your history, you know that IE was integraated into the system in such a way that windows could not run without it. This was done to destroy, rather than allow, competition. And if you know your CS, you know that a browser is an application. Name me one other OS that won't run because a user space application is not present.


» be THANKFUL that companies copy other's ideas and improve upon

Frankly, Matt, I really think your missing the point here. No one is commplaining that companies copy and improve upon each other's ideas. That's part of what's called innovation. Innovation, by the way, that MS successfully stopped when they won the look and feel law suit back in the 80s.

I think the reason MS gets on most people's nerves is the blatent criminality with which they do business. Innovation is one thing - out-and-out theft and destroying free market competition is another.

And with all that 'innovation', and all that cash, and all this time, the fact that they still can't build software that's stable and secure is simply astonishing to me. Almost makes me think MS planned it this way. When IBM said MS was a good marketing company but not a good technology company, Gates was mad as hell. But the facts speak for themselves. Many of you may not know this, but before PCs, computers worked. They don't now, and that makes me mad as hell.

IE 7 is a rip off of firefox

by java, Saturday, May 19, 2007, 17:15 (3933 days ago) @ Ms. Gates

Most companies copy someone else. M$ just refuses to hide it and has the money to sue others for the idea they stole.

IE 7 is a rip off of firefox

by Zach @, Thursday, May 31, 2007, 01:40 (3922 days ago) @ MattSchneider

» Leave technology for a second, the toaster on your counter, do you
» think that's from the company that invented toasters? Hell no, even
» something that simple has been copied and improved upon over the years...
» people, be THANKFUL that companies copy other's ideas and improve upon
» them... otherwise we'd still be driving backwards up hills so the engine
» could get gas... and be thankful that companies wrap up other products
» into theirs like IE in Windows, otherwise that car wouldn't have a heater,
» A/C or sound system, they'd all be add-ons.

I completely agree with and support entities "copying" and improving on other entities software. But Microsoft fails to do this. Yes, they copy other's software, as do the toaster companies. But the toaster companies [most likely] *improved* on the toaster they copied from. Name ONE time that MS has copied something and actually *improved* it. NEVER! They just blatantly copy it, deny they did it, re-sell it, bundle it with Dell/Hp/etc computers (enough so that you have to *fight* to get it without Windows), and *force* you to pay for it, then sue the toaster companies for violating patents on their software!

IE 7 is a rip off of firefox

by unknown, Sunday, June 03, 2007, 22:16 (3918 days ago) @ Jhon

» IE 7 is such a rip off of Firefox. cant Microsoft make up its own ideas?

i agree with you completely , i think the reason is Microsoft has a horrible business plan they aim for quality supposedly yet there OS sucks and the cryptic and Reg errors are a bunch of bull that is why i use linux

1. IT DOES NOT CRASH EASILY ! :-)

2. NO CRYPTIC ERRORS :-)

3. IT IS REALLY REALLY COOL :-)

Which results in shitty software and applications

RSS Feed of thread
powered by my little forum